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- From: jlong@Primenet.Com (John Long)
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- Subject: Re: Can we do programming without seeing the end user?
- Date: 29 Mar 1996 15:42:01 -0700
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- In article <4jbj5q$69p@news1.mnsinc.com>,
- Szu-Wen Huang <huang@mnsinc.com> wrote:
- >Ben Scott (bscott@christa.unh.edu) wrote:
- >: On 24 Mar 1996, KJumoke wrote:
- >
- >
- >: I think the problem with this argument is that the user is going to be
- >: following the "programmers clearly delineated instructions", rather then
- >: the other way around. Programmers are programming for the user. If they
- >: don't do what the the user wants, they are not doing their job. If the
- >: user is out-right wrong, this can be explained to them -- but do not
- >: dismiss everything they say.
- >
- >More importantly, the programmer is *paid*, and the client is *paying*.
- >That makes quite a difference in capitalist societies ;). The original
- >poster probably had little experience in the Real World(tm).
- >
- >You need to at least please the one signing the check ;).
-
- You sure do. IMHO, it is better to please them *after* the check is
- signed than before. What I mean is, they can hand you a bad spec for
- a program, and you can see right away that it's not a good way to
- solve the problem. You can keep your mouth shut and give them what
- they want. Soon enough, they're going to find out that they paid
- for a white elephant, and wondering why you didn't say anything.
-
- It's like going to a doctor for "pain", and getting some little
- pills that make you feel better, while leaving the cause of the
- discomfort untreated.
-
- You're better off giving them longer term satisfaction by giving
- your input into how the program should be done, and speaking up
- when you see that some idea of theirs is going to lead to problems
- later on, or when you see a better way of doing things.
-
- He who pays the piper calls the tune, but the piper is getting
- paid to *think*.
-
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